tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1828166865647185633.post6379735702026705587..comments2024-03-27T11:51:03.366+00:00Comments on The Ranty Highwayman: Deventer DashThe Ranty Highwaymanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17361350433158148025noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1828166865647185633.post-50728028859435086042015-12-30T06:47:06.822+00:002015-12-30T06:47:06.822+00:00Thanks for that insight; yes utilities often ruin ...Thanks for that insight; yes utilities often ruin new surfaces, so a tiled/ block system does mitigate the problem somewhat!The Ranty Highwaymanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17361350433158148025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1828166865647185633.post-86514968316386322142015-12-28T13:42:07.985+00:002015-12-28T13:42:07.985+00:00Just a small clarification, tiles vs tarmac doesn&...Just a small clarification, tiles vs tarmac doesn't nessecarily indicate age. Especially in city centres the old brickwork is used in favour of tarmac (for easthetic reasons and convenience for work on buried electric/phone cables or sewers) and very often those reasons are enough to use tiles or bricks outside centres too. Places outside cities have a smaller chance of cables underneath the roads, hence more tarmac. :)Annekehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13303232666607267415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1828166865647185633.post-11817594185819219742015-09-05T12:08:10.543+01:002015-09-05T12:08:10.543+01:00Thanks for the comment, it clarifies then, that th...Thanks for the comment, it clarifies then, that this is not universal and on a site by site basis. Which makes sense.The Ranty Highwaymanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17361350433158148025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1828166865647185633.post-61822567800066384952015-09-05T09:49:37.427+01:002015-09-05T09:49:37.427+01:00The blue signs still exist because they are the pr...The blue signs still exist because they are the precondition for the free right on red. If the sign is absent, cyclists have to stop on red.Branko Collinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1828166865647185633.post-18322472864143878212015-08-30T16:30:22.574+01:002015-08-30T16:30:22.574+01:00The route you entered was one junction I was watch...The route you entered was one junction I was watching in the morning rush hour and the sim green junction was the one I was watching in the afternoon! <br /><br />Sadly, I arrived at about 8pm on Monday, had about 30 mins Tuesday morning and 3 hours (including lunch) in the afternoon, so I had to concentrate in the core. If only I had an extra day, I would have hired a bike and had a day out. Still, I am definitely coming back as soon as I am able!The Ranty Highwaymanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17361350433158148025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1828166865647185633.post-72623192538059342682015-08-30T15:58:47.973+01:002015-08-30T15:58:47.973+01:00Well, Paris has just introduced it at certain junc...Well, Paris has just introduced it at certain junctions and I think it is getting quite common now.The Ranty Highwaymanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17361350433158148025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1828166865647185633.post-83501025708238806092015-08-30T01:31:58.885+01:002015-08-30T01:31:58.885+01:00I'd like to see a source on that cause I don&#...I'd like to see a source on that cause I don't believe it. Going through a red light is never allowed, unless signposted.Anoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1828166865647185633.post-81935150854955230062015-08-29T10:37:35.064+01:002015-08-29T10:37:35.064+01:00Deventer's a really nice city. The central str...Deventer's a really nice city. The central streets were of course once a nightmare of car stuffed streets as elsewhere in the Netherlands, but now they're relatively tranquil as you saw them. It's a bit of a shame that you visited only the very central streets as those aren't where you find the most obvious examples of good cycling infrastructure in Deventer. I've brought forward my <a href="http://www.aviewfromthecyclepath.com/search/label/deventer" rel="nofollow">long overdue blog post about Deventer</a>, which includes <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNoBH-YvKrY" rel="nofollow">a video showing a very efficient route to the city centre</a>.David Hembrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14543024940730663645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1828166865647185633.post-71191518176986107122015-08-27T21:11:43.549+01:002015-08-27T21:11:43.549+01:00Well, thanks for the additional information, it is...Well, thanks for the additional information, it is much appreciated. It was a long trip with very little sightseeing, but I really wanted to maximise my knowledge from the experience and this helps very much.The Ranty Highwaymanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17361350433158148025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1828166865647185633.post-47076092459309241712015-08-27T19:26:58.573+01:002015-08-27T19:26:58.573+01:00Well if no-one else is going to answer your questi...Well if no-one else is going to answer your question about the pedestrian zone sign and whether or not cycling is allowed, I'll have a go. It may inspire someone who knows Dutch traffic signs better to correct me. <br /><br />The sign in your Walstraat photo says there are "venstertijden" - time windows - when bikes are permitted (but not mopeds), but doesn't specify those times within shopping hours, whereas it does for loading/unloading on the table underneath. Other cities often do specify the times for bikes with notices like that. Here's one:<br /><br />https://goo.gl/maps/Vgmoy<br /><br />But the other end of Walstraat in Deventer does have a sign with times: 7-11 am <br /><br />https://goo.gl/maps/VoVOO<br /><br />Other streets have signs specifying "only outside shopping hours" for bikes, making for interesting street-by-street differences. All very detailed, but does it work like that in practice? The caption on short cut pic with underground garbage storage suggests not. <br /><br />Another common sign outside Deventer is 15 kph for bikes <br /><br />https://goo.gl/maps/jKJ1p<br /><br />I wonder, if technically possible, that would go some way to reassuring pedestrians in the UK (yeah, I know) . <br /><br />Great blog post btw.<br /><br />Jitensha OniAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1828166865647185633.post-32764807083736827412015-08-27T07:43:31.299+01:002015-08-27T07:43:31.299+01:00Thanks very much for the the correction! I am glad...Thanks very much for the the correction! I am glad that it is not just the UK which leaves up unnecessary signs! I suppose the free right is an issue for pedestrians crossing on a green in side road to the right which is something we cannot do in the UK. We would need to have a "floating" crossing waiting area and have a free left turn behind the pedestrians. But, an option does exist here!The Ranty Highwaymanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17361350433158148025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1828166865647185633.post-16531055279237909622015-08-26T20:39:43.412+01:002015-08-26T20:39:43.412+01:00'Tegelijk' literally means 'at the sam...'Tegelijk' literally means 'at the same time' rather than 'together'. And, yes, that free right turn holds always. I wonder why it's still considered necessary to put up those signs - free right on red for bicycles has been in Dutch law since 1992.Andréhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02278675043581385643noreply@blogger.com